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Kimo Khan
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Posted - 2012.11.30 15:31:00 -
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SwissChris1 wrote:"Blockade Runners are being updated to be immune to cargo scanners, and as such will always show up as empty on scans" Aww Nice update to Freighters though Also, FIRST (page  )
I see blessings and curses in both freighters and blockade runners.
Freighters used as haulers for mining ops. Good.
Freighters being hunted more for being such good mining op haulers. Bad.
Blockade runners blocking scans. Good
Everyone shooting at a blockade runner because it is probably hiding something. Bad.
Either way, life will be more interesting. I like both updates, for multiple reasons. |
Kimo Khan
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Posted - 2012.11.30 15:53:00 -
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GeeShizzle MacCloud wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Gilbaron wrote:so you just removed the single most important use of orcas, hauling for mining fleets
not cool How did we remove that? i think a lot of people are scratching their heads as to how this guy got to that conclusion... maybe he thinks his orca will be ganked all the time with the amount of trit he's carrying/hauling for a mining fleet. ohh if only he knew how gankers operate! LOL
I suspect it is more the idea that a Freighter can now do this. The orca can now just sit in a POS to give benefit, but does not even need to be present since the freighter can do all the hauling. |
Kimo Khan
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Posted - 2012.11.30 15:57:00 -
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Aethlyn wrote:Kimo Khan wrote:I suspect it is more the idea that a Freighter can now do this. The orca can now just sit in a POS to give benefit, but does not even need to be present since the freighter can do all the hauling. The freighter is still horrible at collecting the jetcans from miners and miners can't transfer their ore on their own (if you're close enough and don't want to use jetcans).
Oh I agree that actually using a Freighter as a mining op hauler is not a great idea. Can't tank it, cant fit it, can't use tractors. But my argument was that I suspect people are planning that and they can see it as a nerf to the Orca.
Orca's are still better at this than a freighter, but a freighter can haul more.
EDIT: Let me clarify. Using a Freighter to replace an Orca is not a great idea. Using a freight to haul for an orca supported op can be good in that the orca can stick around and collect everything for the freighter. The freighter just needs only 1 trip for the entire orca hold. Now you just need to figure out how to protect the freighter from gankers. |
Kimo Khan
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Posted - 2012.11.30 16:27:00 -
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Viscis Breeze wrote:Nicol Caius wrote:@Devs,
please reconsider the unscannable bonus to the blockade runner. as others have said, its largely a determent to this ship class. my blockade runner will now be a target for just auto-piloting to jita empty. the best case scenario would be to give this bonus to the deep space transport. this would improve the usage of this ship class, isn't that way you guys are aiming for with all the other ship balancing changes? if this isn't possible, i suggest removing it altogether. i'd rather not have my expensive blockade runners being used as pinatas wherever i go to hi-sec. I would at least like the option to turn it off.
Ok you turn it off with nothing in your cargo hold. Question: Is the cargo empty or blocked. How does the ganker know?
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Kimo Khan
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Posted - 2012.11.30 16:43:00 -
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Viscis Breeze wrote:Kimo Khan wrote:Viscis Breeze wrote:Nicol Caius wrote:@Devs,
please reconsider the unscannable bonus to the blockade runner. as others have said, its largely a determent to this ship class. my blockade runner will now be a target for just auto-piloting to jita empty. the best case scenario would be to give this bonus to the deep space transport. this would improve the usage of this ship class, isn't that way you guys are aiming for with all the other ship balancing changes? if this isn't possible, i suggest removing it altogether. i'd rather not have my expensive blockade runners being used as pinatas wherever i go to hi-sec. I would at least like the option to turn it off. Ok you turn it off with nothing in your cargo hold. Question: Is the cargo empty or blocked. How does the ganker know? Fair point. Maybe a work around saying that the "cargo hold cannot be penetrated with your scanners" or "the cargo hold is empty"
I think a better idea would be unscannable containers. Only usable on T2 Transport ships. So both the Blockade Runner and Deep Space Transport can use them but only if they want. |
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